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TheRumpledOne
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msg #67285
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9/14/2008 11:21:41 PM

miketranz

Avery,pull up GM on a 1 min chart.Textbook reversal off open.Where would you enter long? Or would you be long on this trade? If so,what method are you using? Thanks,Mike.....

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I don't trade GM.

I only MTC with NASDAQ stocks.



TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #67286
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9/14/2008 11:24:36 PM

Yes, the RULE OF THUMB is to FADE THE GAP for the first trade. That is the safest way to trade.

HOWEVER, if there is a reason to believe the stock may continue in the direction of the gap, you can use the BUY ZONE for your entry. There are usually a lot of head fakes and you can get killed in a blink of an eye. As you trade ONE STOCK, you gain insight into its trading pattern.

Remember, PRICE MUST CROSS THROUGH ONE OF THE ZONES... there is no choice.





chetron
2,817 posts
msg #67290
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modified
9/15/2008 6:44:30 AM

thanx tro for the clarify.

but the numbers still panned out on friday.


fyi: the fade the gap filter's MA(absgap,100) for aapl is 1.42 and the gap on friday was 1.74

chetron
2,817 posts
msg #67291
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modified
9/15/2008 8:08:37 AM

fyi: the TRO STAT SCAN - TRAVEL GUIDE stats, ie: run,bounce,drop and pullback, have to be valid for aapl. it might be priced and percentaged out for peoples selection criteria, but the above stats have to be valid for all stocks.

sorry, i was refering to the run forest run thread and not the scan. i should have said "TRO STAT SCAN - TRAVEL GUIDE" scan.

TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #67293
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9/15/2008 10:08:08 AM

chetron


fyi: the TRO STAT SCAN - TRAVEL GUIDE stats, ie: run,bounce,drop and pullback, have to be valid for aapl. it might be priced and percentaged out for peoples selection criteria, but the above stats have to be valid for all stocks.

sorry, i was refering to the run forest run thread and not the scan. i should have said "TRO STAT SCAN - TRAVEL GUIDE" scan.

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The "TRO STAT SCAN - TRAVEL GUIDE" scan IS NOT for MTC stocks!!!




chip
67 posts
msg #67306
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9/15/2008 6:41:42 PM

Super textbook AAPL buyzone today.
Open at 142.03, immediately started filling the gap then went on to > 147.5.
My strategy today was to use the buy zone to trigger my entry into a couple of different AAPL option contracts. When AAPL hit 142.15 I bought 2 contracts then when AAPL had made $1 I was out.

TRO, later in the day, around 13:45, the short BZ was entered. Do you use the BZ then? Or just at open? One would have had to endure $2.50 in pain to get that last $1....

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guru_trader
485 posts
msg #67313
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modified
9/15/2008 9:57:29 PM


Quote from TRO:
What about all those indicators, EAs, blackboxes, trading signals and systems for sale? If one of them worked wouldn't it go "viral", too?



Sure, it could go viral but wouldn't it then become less effective as more people use it?


TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #67318
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9/16/2008 2:05:06 AM

The BUY ZONE is in effect ALL DAY LONG.

However, once the "stats" are put in,High - Open > $1 and Open - Low > $1, you are in uncharted waters.

The idea is to take advantage of the statistics of the price action.

And the MORE people that use a system the BETTER it should work... SUPPLY AND DEMAND... you just have to be quicker than the next trader, that's all.





TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #67319
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9/16/2008 2:08:08 AM

"TRO, later in the day, around 13:45, the short BZ was entered. Do you use the BZ then? Or just at open? One would have had to endure $2.50 in pain to get that last $1...."

If you mean you would take a draw down of $2.50 then YOU ARE NOT TRADING THE BUYZONE.

The worse case scenario is entering at the extreme of one zone and stopping out at the extreme of the other which is $.40!! Anything ELSE is NOT the BUY ZONE.



TheRumpledOne
6,529 posts
msg #67330
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modified
9/16/2008 12:30:00 PM

JUST FADE THE GAP.

YELLOW LINE = PREVIOUS CLOSE

WHITE LINE = OPEN

BLUE LINES = LONG ENTRY ZONE

RED LINES = SHORT ENTRY ZONE

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A picture or two is worth THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

Have to love the AAPL JUICE.

MOO!!

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